Which came first?

topic posted Wed, December 21, 2005 - 12:45 PM by  FAUST
Hi, I'm organizing my CD collection and was wondering if some of you KC experts could help me figure something out.

Red and Starless & Bible Black both show copyrights of 1974. Does anyone know which one was released first?

Yes, I organize my CDs by year and order of release...I know its a little OCD, but a boy has to have a hobby.

Any help is appreciated. I think Red came first, but I'm not sure.
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FAUST
California
  • Re: Which came first?

    Wed, December 21, 2005 - 1:39 PM
    Starless was first, then Red. :-)
    • Re: Which came first?

      Wed, December 21, 2005 - 1:43 PM
      Ah. Thanks. I will switch their positions and all will be right in the Universe...
      • Re: Which came first?

        Wed, December 21, 2005 - 3:57 PM
        In The Court Of The OCD King
        • Re: Which came first?

          Wed, December 21, 2005 - 5:32 PM
          LOL. Nice one.
          • Re: Which came first?

            Fri, December 23, 2005 - 6:21 PM
            Strange to think both of these albums came out in the same year. Both are very different. There is stuff on "Starless" that's almost unlistenable. I can play "Red" over and over again and still get the chills.
            • Re: Which came first?

              Tue, December 27, 2005 - 9:51 PM
              They put out two albums to finish off contractual obligations. I think it was either Red or USA that completed their contract. Then Fripp put the band to rest until the 80's.

              I agree that Starless is weak album. It is interesting that the excellent song "Starless" is on Red.
              • Re: Which came first?

                Wed, December 28, 2005 - 2:11 AM
                That's funny, I love Starless & Bible Black. Fracture is a great tune.

                Red was my first CK purchase, so its basically my Prog first girlfriend.
                • Re: Which came first?

                  Wed, December 28, 2005 - 4:50 PM
                  I think Starless is an amazing album. Even more so, when I found out it was a live recording, with all traces of the audience cut out. I think it's second only to Lark's Tongue for pre 80's Crimson.
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                    Re: Which came first?

                    Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:24 PM
                    I agree with Andrew, the creativity coming out of these two albums is mind boggling. I put In The Court at no.3 and Red at no.4 followed by Poseidon which has my favorite song on it called Cat Food with some crazy piano playing.
                    • Re: Which came first?

                      Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:29 PM
                      Cat Food is amazing, mostly because of Keith Tippet's creepy, broken glass piano playing. There is a great collection of early Crimson called "Young Person's Guide..." that has some of the best of early Crimson, with no filler.
                      • Re: Which came first?

                        Wed, December 28, 2005 - 8:00 PM
                        I was lucky enough to see a concert by 21st Schizoid Band a couple of years back and the highlights of that mindblowing concert were definitely Cat Food and Pictures Of A City. The playing by all was awesome, wish I could see them again (and again!)

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